Shadow Shaman
[wiki] rating: 2.0 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 13%)Invoker
[wiki] rating: 2.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 18%)Timbersaw
* Cold Snap can prevent Timbersaw from using both Timber Chain and Chakram due to the frequent stuns interrupting the lengthy cast animations, as well as stopping him mid-chain. This can negate Timbersaw's attempts to escape or dole out extra ability damage.
* Later in the game, Invoker's heavy magical and pure damage can be difficult to avoid, meaning Timbersaw's armor is less useful.
Huskar
* Quas Exort Invoker has high physical damage in the form of Cold Snap and Forged Spirits that allows him to trade hits with Huskar.
* Although Huskar can dispel Cold Snap with Life Break.
* Sun Strike deals pure damage and pierces spell immunity, and Huskar tends to drain his HP, making him a susceptible target.
Ursa
[wiki] rating: 2.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 12%)Timbersaw
* Timbersaw's physical survivability revolves around Reactive Armor, which is largely ignored by Fury Swipes due to the potentially large damage.
* Timbersaw's magical burst damage will not do much against Enrage, although he could easily use Timber Chain to escape, wasting the duration of it.
Huskar
* Jumping on Ursa with Life Break is often suicide for Huskar, as he will be immediately bursted down with Fury Swipes.
Additional:
* Huskar likes fights with a long duration and is usually at low health, making him vulnerable against Ursa's physical damage.
* Jumping in with Life Break against Ursa is suicide, as Enrage, Overpower, and Fury Swipes will easily shred Huskar.
Necrophos
[wiki] rating: 2.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 4%)Timbersaw
* Heartstopper Aura effectively negates Timbersaw's large HP pool as well as HP regen.
* Death Pulse together with health and mana regeneration from killed creeps helps Necrophos and his teammates survive Timbersaw's burst damage.
* As a tanky hero that stays in the middle of teamfights, Timbersaw is an easy target for Reaper's Scythe.
Huskar
* Because Huskar tends to stay at low health to gain the maximum bonuses from Berserker's Blood, it makes him an exceptionally prime target for Reaper's Scythe.
Additional:
* Huskar is often at low health, making him easy prey for Reaper's Scythe.
* Ghost Shroud prevents Huskar from stacking Burning Spear, and if Heartstopper Aura stacks are active, can regenerate health lost to existing stacks.
Viper
[wiki] rating: 2.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 7%)Timbersaw
* Nethertoxin prevents Timbersaw from gaining stacks on Reactive Armor with silence talent also prevents Timbersaw using his abilities.
Huskar
* His Poison Attack is very useful against Huskar, since he tends to stay at low health.
* Nethertoxin disables passive skills like Berserker's Blood.
* It is dangerous for Huskar to jump on Viper because Corrosive Skin and
Viper Strike with the slowdown of movement and attack speed which usually will be deadly for Huskar.
Additional:
* Nethertoxin disables Berserker's Blood, which Huskar relies upon for attack speed and healing.
* The damage from Burning Spear and
Life Break is largely absorbed by Corrosive Skin. It also will return some damage, making it risky to use Burning Spears in the laning stage.
* Because Huskar wants to be on low health for Berserker's Blood, he is particularly vulnerable to Poison Attack.
Ancient Apparition
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 8%)Timbersaw
* Heroes that withstand damage like Timbersaw,
Bristleback,
Dragon Knight and others will have their durability largely reduced when hit by an Ice Blast due to the risk of shattering.
Huskar
* Ice Blast prevents Huskar from healing, regeneration, health gained from activating an
Armlet of Mordiggian and will kill him when his health dips below a threshold. This makes it very dangerous for him to use his abilities.
Additional:
* Ice Blast prevents Huskar from healing with Berserker's Blood and negates any lifesteal, making him significantly weaker in battle.
* Burning Spear and
Life Break cost Huskar his own health, killing him under the effects from Ice Blast.
* Huskar often builds Armlet of Mordiggian which can be deadly during Ice Blast.
Bloodseeker
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 2%)Timbersaw
* Bloodseeker's
Rupture deals great damage against Timbersaw should he tried escaping with Timber Chain.
Additional:
* Rupture and Blood Rite locks down Timbersaw, preventing him from escaping with Timber Chain. However, Timbersaw may reflect a good deal of damage with
Blade Mail.
Huskar
* Huskar is often at low health, providing large Thirst bonuses to Bloodseeker.
* Life Break can trigger Rupture's damage.
* A self applied Bloodrage together with Blademail means it's almost suicidal for Huskar to jump on Bloodseeker with Life Break
Additional:
* Huskar is often at low health, providing large Thirst bonuses.
* Life Break triggers Rupture's damage.
Lion
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 15%)Huskar
* Heroes with high magical burst can easily kill Huskar when he is at low health: Lion,
Lina,
Skywrath Mage
Timbersaw
* Hex greatly reduces Timbersaw's mobility.
* In addition, Lion can follow up with his Earth Spike and
Mana Drain combo, preventing Timbersaw to escape with Timber Chain. And he can finish Timbersaw off with
Finger of Death if the latter's HP is low enough.
Queen of Pain
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 9%)Huskar
* He's the kind of hero that likes to remain at low hp, which is perfect for Queen of Pain to burst with Sonic Wave.
* You should be able to blink away after he jumps on you with Life Break.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw has a difficult time against magical and pure damage: Lina,
Leshrac,
Enchantress,
Queen of Pain
Outworld Destroyer
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 2%)Timbersaw
* Arcane Orb deals constant pure damage, which bypasses Timbersaw's Reactive Armor.
* Sanity's Eclipse can hit targets inside
Astral Imprisonment, which helps Outworld Destroyer finish off Timbersaw before he escapes with Timber Chain. It can also drain his mana, limiting his ability to escape should he survive.
Additional:
* Arcane Orb's pure damage ignores Timbersaw's Reactive Armor.
* Astral Imprisonment, if timed correctly, can interrupt Timber Chain, preventing him from escaping.
Huskar
* Heroes with pure damage can kill Huskar when he inevitably gets low on health: Outworld Destroyer,
Silencer.
Additional:
* Outworld Devourer can dodge Life Break with Astral Imprisonment, leaving him unharmed while Huskar loses HP.
* Sanity's Eclipse can deal massive damage to Huskar before he builds up his Berserker's Blood stacks due to Huskar's low mana pool.
Doom
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 3%)Timbersaw
* Doom shuts down Timbersaw completely, negating his mobility and preventing him from doing any damage.
* Infernal Blade can stun Timbersaw several times in a fight, potentially interrupting Timber Chain. It also breaks Reactive Armor's passive bonuses from
Aghanim's Scepter.
Additional:
* Infernal Blade deals scaling damage and is useful against high HP targets such as Timbersaw.
* Timbersaw is extremely reliant on his abilities to be effective during a teamfight - both for mobility, damage and crowd control. Timbersaw offers very little impactful right-click damage, and thus Doom is particularly crippling against this hero.
* Additionally, when upgraded with Aghanim's Scepter, Infernal Blade breaks
Reactive Armor, which effectively removes the durability which Timbersaw is commonly known for.
Huskar
* Heroes with abilities that break Berserker's Blood, lowering Huskar's attack speed and health regeneration: Doom,
Shadow Demon,
Viper.
Faceless Void
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 8%)Timbersaw
* Time Dilation is similar to a long duration silence, making Timbersaw useless in team fights, or forcing him to adapt his build.
* Time Walk negates Timbersaw's burst damage.
* Time Lock provides magical damage and lock down, and is effective against both Reactive Armor and Timber Chain.
* In conjunction with Time Lock's magical damage,
Chronosphere can destroy Timbersaw before he has time to react, and creates a large obstacle that obstruct's Timber Chain's mobility.
Huskar
* Carries that can out damage Huskar will do well against him: Legion Commander,
Faceless Void,
Troll Warlord,
Phantom Assassin.
Enigma
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 4%)Huskar
* His ultimate will be a double edged sword for him if he ever dares to use it by risking max health based damage of Enigma.
* Enigma can mass ranged summons which he's rather helpless against.
Alchemist
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 4%)Huskar
* Chemical Rage negates almost all damage from Burning Spears.
Additional:
* Chemical Rage mitigates damage from Burning Spear.
Juggernaut
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 20%)Huskar
* Blade Fury makes Juggernaut immune to the damage from Life Break and Burning Spears.
* It can be instantly activated the second Juggernaut sees Huskar flying towards him with Life Break, blocking all damage.
* Healing Ward effectively negates any damage-over-time from Burning Spears.
* Huskar has no defense against Omnislash and takes heavy damage due to his low armor.
Abaddon
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 3%)Huskar
* Huskar's damage over time gives Abaddon the opportunity to shield and heal his allies.
* Borrowed Time also makes Abaddon a hard support to gank, thus negating Huskar's early game dominance.
Clinkz
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 6%)Huskar
* Huskar's Berserker's Blood provides no protection against Clinkz's physical damage output.
* Huskar has no way to disrupt Clinkz's attacks and no way to kill Clinkz alone, as Clinkz can easily go invisible, teleport away, or even fight back.
* Clinkz will often build the items that counter Huskar and the items he usually builds. These include Black King Bar or
Monkey King Bar for
Heaven's Halberd, or a disable item like
Scythe of Vyse or
Bloodthorn to prevent him from using
Inner Fire to disarm.
Dark Willow
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 6%)Timbersaw
* Bramble Maze prevents Timbersaw from Timber Chaining away without getting rooted.
* Cursed Crown can still catch Timbersaw if he Timber Chains away.
* Reactive Armor offers little protection against Dark Willow's high magical damage.
Warlock
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 5%)Huskar
* {U:Warlock Golem}s do plenty of physical and pure damage to bring down Huskar when he is at low health. Warlock is always a hazard for Huskar to initiate by using Life Break because
Chaotic Offering can stun him instantly, even when
Black King Bar is activated, and allow Warlock's team to gather their wit and retaliate.
* After jumping in, Huskar will not have any means to escape Upheaval. Being an attack-dependent hero, this is bad for him.
Pugna
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 4%)Timbersaw
* Nether Ward can punish Timbersaw, as Timbersaw is a spell-caster with low cooldowns. Furthermore, Timbersaw usually appears in the midst of battle, placing himself in range of
Nether Ward's Mana Flares.
* Timbersaw has no stuns or silences to stop Life Drain. Since all of Pugna's Spells are magical, the damage can be devastating to Timbersaw, especially when combined with
Decrepify
Additional:
* Nether Ward can punish Timbersaw, as Timbersaw is a spell-caster with low cooldowns. Furthermore, Timbersaw usually appears in the midst of battle, placing himself in range of Nether Ward's Mana Flares.
* Timbersaw has no stuns or silences to stop Life Drain. Since all of Pugna's Spells are magical, the damage can be devastating to Timbersaw.
* Decrepify can further increase all the magical damage done to Timbersaw, bypassing the enhanced physical resistance he can get from Reactive Armor.
Bane
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 5%)Timbersaw
* Brain Sap's magic damage ignores stacks of Reactive Armor.
* Nightmare prevents Timbersaw from using Timber Chain, setting him up for chain stuns and burst damage.
* Fiend's Grip immobilizes Timbersaw and drains his low mana pool, preventing escape afterwards. It also pierces
Black King Bar.
* Bane's multiple disables often force Timbersaw or his teammates to spend gold on a Linken's Sphere.
Death Prophet
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 3%)Timbersaw
* Because Timbersaw relies heavily on his spells to deal damage, Silence can easily disable him in a team fight.
* Exorcism's spirits do not count as regular attacks, and will not add stacks of Reactive Armor.
Storm Spirit
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 10%)Timbersaw
* Ball Lightning makes Storm Spirit a target difficult to chase, even for a hero as mobile as Timbersaw.
* The magical damage from Static Remnant and
Overload together with Storm Spirit's high mobility allows Storm Spirit to jump on Timbersaw and burst him down, even if he tries to escape.
Silencer
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 8%)Huskar
* Heroes with pure damage can kill Huskar when he inevitably gets low on health: Outworld Destroyer,
Silencer.
Timbersaw
* Arcane Curse deals repeated stacks of damage to Timbersaw because he relies on constantly using his abilities.
* Glaives of Wisdom deals pure damage and when cast manually, nearby creeps will not attack silencer, making it an effective harassment tool.
* Although Last Word takes a while to trigger, it will break Timbersaw's ability combo and can be used to silence him.
* Global Silence will silence Timberaw no matter where he is on the map. This can be used to help allies get a kill on him, or prevent Timbersaw from killing someone.
Additional:
* Timbersaw is heavily reliant on his abilities for damage and escape, allowing Silencer to effectively disable him and make him useless in both team fights and 1v1 scenarios.
Huskar
* Vulnerable spellcasters with no escape mechanisms are easy targets for Huskar: Lich,
Crystal Maiden,
Silencer,
Keeper of the Light,
Venomancer, etc.
Brewmaster
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 2%)Huskar
* Brewmaster can use Cyclone to disable Huskar's healer for much longer than most other heroes can, to make Huskar vulnerable.
* Huskar has no way to stop Brewmaster from using Primal Split by himself, but can cut a good amount of his high health away if Huskar's team wants to burst Brewmaster down during a different disable.
Windranger
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 16%)Huskar
* Windranger prevents Huskar from landing Burning Spears by using Windrun.
* Because Huskar tends to be at low health, Focus Fire and Powershot are good abilities against him.
Additional:
* Windrun makes it impossible to hit Windranger with Burning Spears.
* Huskar cannot toggle Armlet of Mordiggian to regain health while taking constant damage from
Focus Fire.
Zeus
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 11%)Timbersaw
* Reactive Armor will not trigger from Zeus's spells or protect Timbersaw from their damage.
* Early game Timbersaw's strength is average and Zeus can heavily aid in bursting him down.
* Late game, if Timbersaw has built a lot of HP items, Zeus's passive Static Field will be more effective at chipping away Timbersaw's large HP pool.
* A Timbersaw who builds Pipe of Insight will be much more difficult to kill, as Zeus has no way to hold Timbersaw down, but Timbersaw will have less armor, mana, and damage than normal if he buys this item early game just to counter Zeus.
Additional:
* Zeus deals enormous amounts of magic damage, being one of the best heroes to burst down Timbersaw early in the game.
* Lightning Bolt's mini-stun can stop Timbersaw's from escaping a fight with Timber Chain.
* Timbersaws tend to build health increasing items, making Zeus' Static Field deal huge amounts of damage.
Tinker
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 8%)Timbersaw
* All Tinker's damage is magic/pure and completely ignores Timbersaw's Reactive Armor.
* Timbersaw very rarely builds Black King Bar, making him very vulnerable if Tinker builds
Scythe of Vyse.
Huskar
* Heroes who rely on physical damage will suffer from Laser: Phantom Assassin,
Wraith King,
Huskar.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw's ability to destroy trees can be a serious problem for some heroes that use them, as either a way of enhancing their spells like Treant Protector, or heroes that tend to hide inside of them like
Tinker and
Monkey King.
Slardar
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 9%)Huskar
* Corrosive Haze and
Bash of the Deep will make short work of Huskar's low armor, even if Slardar is alone.
Vengeful Spirit
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 9%)Huskar
* Huskar struggles against heroes that output high physical damage due to his low armor. Vengeful Spirit's Wave of Terror and Vengeance Aura help increase the physical damage of her team.
Lifestealer
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 5%)Huskar
* Rage renders Lifestealer immune to the damage from Burning Spears.
* Feast and
Open Wounds makes Lifestealer one of few heroes that can outlast Huskar in a one-on-one fight.
Nyx Assassin
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 55% pickrate: 11%)Huskar
* Nyx Assassin can reflect Life Break with
Spiked Carapace.
Arc Warden
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 5%)Huskar
* Heroes with illusions can overwhelm Huskar, as he has no AoE abilities: Phantom Lancer,
Anti-Mage,
Arc Warden,
Chaos Knight.
Spirit Breaker
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 8%)Huskar
* Spirit Breaker's stuns pierce spell immunity, making him a good choice against heroes that heavily rely on Black King Bar;
Huskar
Skywrath Mage
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 6%)Huskar
* Heroes with high magical burst can easily kill Huskar when he is at low health: Lion,
Lina,
Skywrath Mage
Timbersaw
* Skywrath Mage's long range and low cooldown magic damage spells can easily harass Timbersaw out of lane.
* Ancient Seal is not only a long lasting silence, (one of Timbersaw's biggest weaknesses) but it also makes him even more vulnerable to magical burst damage.
Additional:
* Magical burst damage is Timbersaw's weakness, and Ancient Seal not only amplifies it but also prevents him from using Timber Chain to escape for up to 6 seconds.
* He generally doesn't build early items to deal with silences.
* Reactive Armor does not trigger on magic damage or spells, meaning that even a
Pipe of Insight won't give him the massive sustain he normally gets from attacks.
Huskar
* Berserker's Blood works proportionate to lost health, but Huskar has a decent health pool, and the attack speed granted from
Berserker's Blood powers him up.
* Skywrath's armor and agility gain is very low so Huskar can outdamage him or take Skywrath down with him.
Legion Commander
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 13%)Huskar
* Carries that can out damage Huskar will do well against him: Legion Commander,
Faceless Void,
Troll Warlord,
Phantom Assassin.
Additional:
* Life Break is almost suicidal when used on Legion Commander, as it invites an instant Duel and Legion Commander herself is a natural
Blade Mail carrier.
* Huskar's low survivability and mostly on low health makes him particularly vulnerable to Legion Commander's high physical damage.
Dazzle
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 6%)Huskar
* Heroes with abilities that reduce armor will make Huskar very vulnerable: Weaver,
Dazzle,
Bristleback,
Vengeful Spirit.
Anti-Mage
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 14%)Huskar
* Heroes with illusions can overwhelm Huskar, as he has no AoE abilities: Phantom Lancer,
Anti-Mage,
Arc Warden,
Chaos Knight.
Timbersaw
* Heroes who build mana boosting items but have low mana regeneration are especially vulnerable against Mana Break and Mana Void: Timbersaw,
Slark,
Shadow Fiend,
Clinkz,
Bristleback
Nyx Assassin,
Magnus
Huskar
* Huskar's natural reliance on health instead of mana makes him very resistant against Mana Void. He is a proficient early ganker against Anti-Mage, but struggles to deal significant damage against Anti-Mage in the late game.
Lina
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 14%)Huskar
* Heroes with high magical burst can easily kill Huskar when he is at low health: Lion,
Lina,
Skywrath Mage
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw has a difficult time against magical and pure damage: Lina,
Leshrac,
Enchantress,
Queen of Pain
Timbersaw
* Heroes that can close the gap can easily chase her down, such as Timbersaw with
Timber Chain and
Anti-Mage with
Blink.
Shadow Demon
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 3%)Huskar
* Heroes with abilities that break Berserker's Blood, lowering Huskar's attack speed and health regeneration: Doom,
Shadow Demon,
Viper.
Enchantress
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 2%)Timbersaw
* Timbersaw has a difficult time against magical and pure damage: Lina,
Leshrac,
Enchantress,
Queen of Pain
Huskar
* Untouchable makes it near impossible to stack Burning Spears.
* Impetus' pure damage puts an instant end to Huskar's low-health brinkmanship.
Timbersaw
* The burst damage from Timbersaw's abilities is more than enough to deal with Enchantress and her creeps.
* Timbersaw doesn't rely on his physical attacks, which makes Untouchable useless against him.
* Timber Chain can close the gap between them and minimize damage from Impetus.
* Be aware, however, that Timber Chain could work against him if used to escape.
* However, Impetus can ignore Reactive Armor if Enchantress is not a primary target for Timbersaw or if he is disabled.
Pangolier
[wiki] rating: 0.4 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 7%)Timbersaw
* Rolling Thunder's stuns make it harder for Timbersaw to escape with Timber Chain.
Huskar
* Certain heroes can mess up with Pangolier's positioning and timing (especially if he intends to use Rolling Thunder during combat): Vengeful Spirit,
Keeper of the Light,
Huskar,
Dark Seer
Weaver
[wiki] rating: 0.2 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 6%)Huskar
* Heroes with abilities that reduce armor will make Huskar very vulnerable: Weaver,
Dazzle,
Bristleback,
Vengeful Spirit.
Timbersaw
* In general, Timbersaw struggles against highly mobile heroes that can avoid his abilities: Puck,
Weaver,
Ember Spirit and others.
Huskar
* Weaver cannot Time Lapse out of Huskar's burn damage.
Nature's Prophet
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 4%)Huskar
* Sprout will not protect Nature's Prophet from Huskar if he has already locked on with Life Break.
* Even a farmed Nature's Prophet is usually not durable enough to fight Huskar alone.
Timbersaw
* All three of Timbersaw’s spells give him an easy way out of Sprout, and can also destroy nearby trees so Prophet can’t spawn Treants.
* If Prophet tries to escape with a self Sprout/Teleport, Timbersaw can easily cut down any and all trees to get to him and deal increased Whirling Death damage as well. Chakram heavily discourages teleports.
* Timbersaw is quite well suited to clearing massive waves of Treants almost instantly with all of his AoE pure damage spells, giving immense amounts of farm. In addition, the Treants can max out Reactive Armor quite quickly.
* Prophet’s usual heavy autoattack build doesn’t do much against Reactive Armor.
Additional:
* Timbersaw can easily cut down trees from Sprout, making it very difficult for Nature's Prophet to teleport away or trap enemies.
* Timbersaw's abilities quickly clear out treants.
* Reactive Armor negates most of the damage of Nature's Prophet's treants, and Timbersaw can often allow himself to be attacked in order to heal himself.
Gyrocopter
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 3%)Huskar
* Life Break and
Burning Spear usually kills Gyrocopter before he can do much damage to Huskar.
* Inner Fire applies a disarm on all enemies, which can be a hindrance to Gyrocopter.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw is often too mobile and durable for Gyrocopter to bring down with his area attacks.
Razor
[wiki] rating: -2.0 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 2%)Huskar
* Life Break along with
Burning Spear can quickly kill Razor before Static Link steals enough damage for Razor to take down Huskar.
* Berserker's Blood can make stealing Huskar's damage and using it against him somewhat dangerous, as Huskar will be able to inflict more and more Burning Spears rapidly.
Timbersaw
* Razor deals mostly physical damage towards the later game, and Timbersaw is also very mobile, making him a difficult kill to earn.
* Timbersaw rarely resorts to attacks, thus does not suffer when his damage is stolen with Static Link.
Mars
[wiki] rating: -1.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 16%)Huskar
* Burning Spear's magical damage is very troublesome for Mars in the laning stage.
* Life Break's percentage-based magical damage bypasses Bulwark, and can also be used to jump in or out of Arena Of Blood.
Timbersaw
* Heroes with high magical or pure damage will bypass Bulwark: Timbersaw,
Dark Willow,
Enigma,
Invoker,
Pugna,
Skywrath Mage,
Tinker,
Zeus,
Oracle.
Dragon Knight
[wiki] rating: -1.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 2%)Huskar
* Huskar can burn down Dragon Knight's health quickly during the early to mid game, but is not as effective during the late game. However,
Life Break remains a constant threat due to the slow and percentage-based damage.
Additional:
* Huskar can negate Dragon Knight's passive with multiple trades of Burning Spear.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw's pure damage will kill Dragon Knight surprisingly fast, especially if he gets caught in a bad position while laning.
Visage
[wiki] rating: -1.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 3%)Timbersaw
* Reactive Armor will quickly stack up from Familiar attacks, making Timbersaw hard to kill.
* Visage's low mobility makes it easy for Timbersaw to line up his abilities.
Huskar
* Heroes with damage over time abilities can quickly eat through Gravekeeper's Cloak charges like Huskar,
Jakiro and
Queen of Pain.
Undying
[wiki] rating: -1.2 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 7%)Huskar
* Huskar's huge damage output and attack speed can get rid of Undying and Tombstone quickly.
Timbersaw
* Reactive Armor makes Timbersaw very effective against heroes that control a lot of units, such as Broodmother,
Lycan and
Undying.
Kunkka
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 4%)Huskar
* Since Tidebringer has a 4 second cooldown, Kunkka has little availability to manfight Huskar.
Magnus
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 7%)Huskar
* Magnus cannot manfight Huskar even with Empower, Berserker's Blood's high attack speed and health regeneration, combined with Huskar's high health and
Burning Spear stacks will allow Huskar to kill Magnus before he can kill him.
* From a safe distance, Huskar can surprise and counter Magnus's initiation with Life Break and
Burning Spear.
* Burning Spear also deals damage over time, disabling Blink Dagger and preventing him from initiating or escaping.
Pudge
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 22%)Timbersaw
* The percentage-based primary-attribute reduction effect of Whirling Death can be devastating for Pudge due to his high strength gain through Flesh Heap.
* Reactive Armor's health regeneration and common itemization for magic resistance and durability make Timbersaw a poor target for Pudge.
* Timber Chain's high mobility makes Timbersaw difficult to lockdown for Pudge, given he only has one reliable disable.
Meepo
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 1%)Timbersaw
* Because multiple Meepos tend to clump up, they present an easy target for Timbersaw's many area abilities.
Earthshaker
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 10%)Huskar
* Earthshaker's stuns will rarely save him once Huskar has initiated on him with Life Break.
* A full initiation combo will not kill Huskar, only lower his health and increase his attack speed.
Templar Assassin
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 5%)Huskar
* Huskar's burn damage from Burning Spear is incredibly strong against Templar Assassin as it completely cancels out her Refraction from the burning over time which results in making her very vulnerable to being ganked or harassed, and in turn forcing her out of the lane.
Drow Ranger
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 8%)Huskar
* Life Break closes the distance between Huskar and Drow Ranger, dealing large amounts of damage and disabling Marksmanship.
* Berserker's Blood and
Burning Spear allow Huskar to beat Drow Ranger directly and pile on damage.
Clockwerk
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 7%)Huskar
* Clockwerk cannot go head-to-head with Huskar in Power Cogs, as Berserker's Blood and
Life Break will destroy him faster than the other way around.
Additional:
* Clockwerk's abilities cannot handle Huskar in a one-on-one fight, even if he gets the jump on him.
Chen
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 1%)Timbersaw
* With Timber Chain, Timbersaw can slow, catch up with, or escape from Chen and his creeps.
* Chakram can clear Chen's creeps and slow him.
* Attacks from multiple creeps quickly build Reactive Armor stacks.
Phoenix
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 10%)Huskar
* Huskar's high attack speed can counteract Fire Spirits, and easily destroy the
Supernova.
Additional:
* Berserker's Blood will let Huskar easily face down a Supernova with increased attack speed.
* Icarus Dive may not be an easy escape from Huskar either as he can chase Phoenix during it with Life Break if Huskar times it right.
Winter Wyvern
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 5%)Timbersaw
* Timbersaw relies on dealing massive amounts of pure damage, making Cold Embrace a good setup for his nukes.
* If he has Reactive Armor stacks, Timbersaw can tank the damage from his allies if he is targeted by Winter's Curse. If he's not the target, Timbersaw's abysmal attack damage will contribute next to nothing when he is cursed to attack an ally.
Treant Protector
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 6%)Timbersaw
* Not only are all of Timbersaw's active abilities capable of cutting down trees, but Whirling Death and
Timber Chain also require it to be effective, counteracting both Treant Protector's Nature's Guise and Eyes in the Forest abilities.
Additional:
* Timbersaw can use his plethora of tree cutting abilities to level entire sections of the forest, making hiding in the trees more difficult for Treant Protector and his team.
* Timbersaw can easily cut down Treant Protector's Eyes In The Forest once his team has detection. He may even do it unknowingly due to the sheer destructive and chaotic nature of his abilities.
Beastmaster
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 55% pickrate: 4%)Timbersaw
* Reactive Armor is very effective against Beastmaster's summons during laning stage and entire game.
* Timbersaw can quickly clear Beastmaster's summons with his nukes.
Broodmother
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 56% pickrate: 2%)Timbersaw
* Spiderlings deal almost no damage against Reactive armor. They also die quickly from Timbersaw's AoE abilities.
* Broodmother has no mobility ability except the movement speed buff from Spin Web, allowing Timbersaw to easily escape her
Incapacitating Bite with Timber Chain.
* Timbersaw's tree-cutting abilities makes it difficult for Broodmother to hide, especially near the edges of the map.
Additional:
* Reactive Armor prevents Broodmother's spiderlings from being able to effectively harass Timbersaw in the lane.
* Timber Chain's high mobility makes Incapacitating Bite's slow irrelevant.
* Timbersaw's abilities can destroy any trees that Broodmother attempts to hide in and his AoE abilities can quickly clear her Spiderlings.
Keeper of the Light
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 5%)Huskar
* Vulnerable spellcasters with no escape mechanisms are easy targets for Huskar: Lich,
Crystal Maiden,
Silencer,
Keeper of the Light,
Venomancer, etc.
Lich
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 12%)Huskar
* Vulnerable spellcasters with no escape mechanisms are easy targets for Huskar: Lich,
Crystal Maiden,
Silencer,
Keeper of the Light,
Venomancer, etc.
Additional:
* Lich is going to have a hard time nuking Huskar because of his high health regeneration from Berserker's Blood.
* Lich is a squishy support without an escape mechanism, making Lich an easy kill thanks to Life Break and
Burning Spear.
* Once Huskar has Armlet of Mordiggian, even a maxed out Frost Blast will struggle to finish Huskar off.
Oracle
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 9%)Timbersaw
* Heroes who are not easily crippled by Fate's Edict or Fortune's End, such as Timbersaw, or those who can dispel them, such as
Phantom Lancer, can kill Oracle unhindered.
Crystal Maiden
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 13%)Huskar
* Vulnerable spellcasters with no escape mechanisms are easy targets for Huskar: Lich,
Crystal Maiden,
Silencer,
Keeper of the Light,
Venomancer, etc.
Venomancer
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 5%)Huskar
* Vulnerable spellcasters with no escape mechanisms are easy targets for Huskar: Lich,
Crystal Maiden,
Silencer,
Keeper of the Light,
Venomancer, etc.
Additional:
* Huskar can easily regenerate lost health from DoT spells through Berserker's Blood rendering them ineffective
* Venomancer has little armor and mobility, and rarely builds Linken's Sphere, so he is quite vulnerable to Life Break.
Lone Druid
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 1%)Timbersaw
* Timbersaw: Lone Druid will have a hard time dealing with Timbersaw due to his tankiness and high Armor from
Reactive Armor
Bounty Hunter
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 8%)Huskar
* Huskar with
Life Break
* Heroes that can remove the Track debuff with their skills:
* Abaddon with
Aphotic Shield and
Borrowed Time
* Huskar with
Life Break
* Juggernaut with
Blade Fury
* Legion Commander with
Press the Attack
* Lifestealer with
Rage and
Infest
* Naga Siren with
Mirror Image
* Omniknight with
Heavenly Grace
* Oracle with
Fortune's End and
False Promise
* Phantom Lancer with
Doppelganger
* Slark with
Dark Pact
* Ursa with
Enrage
* Weaver with
Time Lapse
* Tidehunter with
Kraken Shell when damage received reaches the threshold.
Monkey King
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 54% pickrate: 18%)Timbersaw
* Timersaw cannot take advantage of Reactive Armor against Monkey King's Jingu Mastery.
* Boundless Strike can be used to stop him from connecting his Timber Chain.
* Monkey King has bad health, so the percentage from Whirling Death will be much noticeably lower.
* However, you should be aware that Chakram can cut down a large amount of tree's, so it's not recommended to stand on them in his proximity if he knows you are there.
Huskar
* Burning Spears can put Monkey King's
Tree Dance on cooldown.
Additional:
* Inner Fire can push Monkey King out of Wukong's Command.
* Burning Spear's damage over time will constantly put Tree Dance on cooldown.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw can easily cut down the tree that Monkey King is standing on, stunning him for a lengthy period.
* Timbersaw can use Timber Chain to easily escape Wukong's Command and
Primal Spring's slow.
Additional:
* Timbersaw's low cooldown and low mana cost abilities destroys the trees that Monkey King depends on.
* Timber Chain allows Timbersaw to escape Wukong's Command.
Terrorblade
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 6%)Huskar
* Sunder can prevent Terrorblade's or an ally's death by swapping health, making damage-over-time spells inefficient. Heroes that rely on damage-over-time abilities like Venomancer and
Huskar will have a hard time against Sunder.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw can take down Terrorblade's illusions with his area damage burst.
* Reactive Armor plus another armor item reduce much of Terrorblade's damage.
Additional:
* Timbersaw's spell combos all deal magical and pure damage, completely ignoring Terrorblade's high base armor and clearing his illusions very quickly due to the AoE damage.
* Reactive Armor negates most of Terrorblade's damage against Timbersaw, and its high health regeneration and armor bonuses can help Timbersaw survive after being Sundered.
Phantom Assassin
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 17%)Huskar
* Carries that can out damage Huskar will do well against him: Legion Commander,
Faceless Void,
Troll Warlord,
Phantom Assassin.
Timbersaw
* Reactive Armor helps Timbersaw sustain harassment from Stifling Dagger, as well as ganking attempts.
* Phantom Assassin is a hero with moderate HP pool, and usually appears in the front line of battle. Because Blur does nothing against spells, she is vulnerable to Timbersaw's skills.
* Timbersaw can easily escape from Phantom Assassin thanks to his Timber Chain.
Additional:
* Reactive Armor helps Timbersaw sustain harassment from Stifling Dagger.
* Phantom Assassin has a moderate health pool and usually appears in the front line of battle, making her vulnerable to Timbersaw's magic burst.
* Timbersaw can easily escape from Phantom Assassin thanks to his Timber Chain.
Slark
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 12%)Timbersaw
* Heroes with blink or movement abilities, which are disabled by Pounce's leash: Anti-Mage,
Earth Spirit,
Faceless Void,
Magnus,
Mirana,
Monkey King,
Morphling,
Pangolier,
Phantom Assassin,
Phoenix,
Puck,
Queen of Pain,
Riki,
Sand King,
Spirit Breaker,
Timbersaw,
Tusk.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw can use Chakram as a scouting tool to find Slark if he tries to Pounce into the trees.
* None of Timbersaw's abilities require a target to be cast, allowing him to hit Slark inside Shadow Dance.
* Reactive Armor can be effective protection against a Slark who attacks quickly, since the strong armor and health regen cannot be stolen by Essence Shift.
* Timber Chain makes Timbersaw very mobile, meaning he is among the very few heroes who can actually give chase to a fleeing Slark.
Phantom Lancer
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 7%)Huskar
* Heroes with illusions can overwhelm Huskar, as he has no AoE abilities: Phantom Lancer,
Anti-Mage,
Arc Warden,
Chaos Knight.
Timbersaw
* All Timbersaw's abilities are AOE pure damage and can easily deal with Phantom Lancer's illusions
* Reactive Armor highly negates Phantom Lancer's physical damage, making him having a hard time killing Timbersaw.
Additional:
* Phantom Lancer's lack of burst damage and constant attacks will increase Reactive Armor to max level immediately. Coupled with Timber Chain making escaping from crowds easy, it is almost impossible for Timbersaw to be killed by Phantom Lancer.
* Whirling Death and Chakram can instantly destroy large groups of illusions, negating Phantom Lancer's advantage.Although Phantom Lancer usually builds diffusal blade.It is a problem in late game.
Troll Warlord
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 9%)Huskar
* Carries that can out damage Huskar will do well against him: Legion Commander,
Faceless Void,
Troll Warlord,
Phantom Assassin.
Additional:
* Whirling Axes (Melee) provides a 60% miss chance, resulting in Huskar's attacks missing a lot of the time if it isn't dispelled.
* Troll Warlord's Fervor ramps up in a very similar way as Huskar's Berserker's Blood: as soon as Huskar has high enough health regeneration, Troll Warlord has a high enough attack speed to negate it.
Timbersaw
* Timber Chain can kite Troll Warlord extremely effectively.
* Whirling Death and
Chakram deals lots of damage to Troll Warlord.
* Reactive Armor makes Timbersaw extremely resilient to Troll's attack damage and extreme attack speed, especially during Battle Trance.
Chaos Knight
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 4%)Huskar
* Heroes with illusions can overwhelm Huskar, as he has no AoE abilities: Phantom Lancer,
Anti-Mage,
Arc Warden,
Chaos Knight.
Timbersaw
* Reactive Armor helps Timbersaw to endure the damage from Chaos Bolt and
Reality Rift combo.
* Timbersaw's large amount of pure damage AoE nukes clears Chaos Knight's illusions quickly, drastically reducing his damage.
Additional:
* Strong area damage, particularly from Whirling Death and
Chakram, lets Timbersaw clear out illusions quickly.
* Whirling Death directly reduces Strength from both Chaos Knight and his Phantasm illusions, reducing both the damage output and raw health that the hero relies on.
* Reactive Armor quickly builds stacks against Phantasm illusions, making Timbersaw hard to kill.
* Timber Chain allows Timbersaw to escape while surrounded.
Bristleback
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 7%)Huskar
* Bristleback's tankiness and Bristleback allow him to outlast Burning Spears' damage-over-time at almost any point in the game. In addition, if Huskar chooses to cast Life Break on Bristleback, Bristleback can simply turn around before it hits and receive little damage.
* Viscous Nasal Goo will reduce Huskar's low armor even further, and
Quill Spray and
Warpath will tear him down extremely quickly.
Additional:
* The damage from Burning Spear can be reduced by turning away from Huskar.
* Bristleback can bait Huskar into using Life Break on him, then turn around and receive very little damage.
Timbersaw
* Whirling Death deals damage as well while reducing 15% of Bristleback's strength, which reduces Bristleback's tankiness.
* Reactive Armor can sustain through multiple Viscous Nasal Goo and Quill Spray stacks.
* Timber Chain makes it hard for Bristleback to slow down Timbersaw with Viscous Nasal Goo.
Ember Spirit
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 9%)Timbersaw
* Searing Chains prevents usage of Timber Chain.
* Timbersaw is vulnerable to magical burst damage, which Ember Spirit provides with Fire Remnant and
Flame Guard.
* Timbersaw's abilities deal pure damage, thus they cannot remove Flame Guard.
Huskar
* Ember Spirit does minimal damage to Huskar until the very late game.
Grimstroke
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 8%)Timbersaw
* Timbersaw relies heavily on his abilities so Phantom's Embrace's silence makes it more difficult for him.
* Timbersaw cannot use Return Chakram or attack the phantom during Phantom's Embrace, forcing him to take full damage and refreshes Phantom's Embrace's cooldown.
Huskar
* Berserker's Blood can potentially out-heal the damage over time from Ink Swell and Phantom's Embrace.
* Life Break can break Soulbind if used correctly.
Hoodwink
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 22%)Huskar
* Huskar’s low health play style put him at extreme risk to Sharpshooter's extreme damage. In addition, it breaks
Berserker's Blood, nullifying Huskar's power source.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw’s reliance on nearby trees means he’ll usually be close to Hoodwink.
* More significantly, Timbersaw's tree destroying abilities cut off Hoodwink's escape options, passive and easily foil Acorn Shot/Bushwhack combos.
* While channeling her ultimate, Timbersaw can simply sit his Chakram on top of her and unleash his full combo, forcing her to cancel and disengage.
* Timber Chain can be used to dodge Hoodwink’s ultimate.
Axe
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 10%)Huskar
* Berserker's Call and
Blade Mail can be used immediately after Huskar jumps on Axe with Life Break.
* Huskar's high attack speed procs Counter Helix repeatedly.
* Huskar's health loss from using his abilities make him a frequent target for Culling Blade.
Additional:
* Huskar is often played at low health to maximize the bonuses from Berserker's Blood, and also because his abilities cost health to use. This makes him especially vulnerable to Culling Blade.
* Berserker's Blood gives Huskar no protection against the pure damage of Culling Blade. Its attack speed bonus also means that Counter Helix will proc more often.
* Axe's tankiness and base health regeneration makes it hard for Huskar to take him down with Burning Spears.
Timbersaw
* Whirling Death reduces Axe's strength by 15%, making him much less tanky, especially in the early game. It is also stackable.
* Axe's Blade Mail is ineffective against attribute changes, and Timbersaw's mobility with
Timber Chain means he can wait out Blade Mail's duration.
* Reactive Armor's armor and regeneration makes it much harder for Axe to finish Timbersaw with Culling Blade.
* Chakram disarms Timbersaw, making Counter Helix less effective.
Leshrac
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 4%)Timbersaw
* Timbersaw has a difficult time against magical and pure damage: Lina,
Leshrac,
Enchantress,
Queen of Pain
Huskar
* Heroes with spell immunity: Juggernaut,
Pangolier,
Huskar.
Naga Siren
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 2%)Huskar
* Mirror Image can cause Huskar to Life Break the wrong target.
* Rip Tide reduces Huskar's already low armor.
* Song of the Siren allows teams to recover from Huskar's initiation, as well as the damage over time from Burning Spears.
Timbersaw
* Timbersaw's innate tankiness is very hard to deal with as Naga Siren. Timbersaw's high Pure Damage and spammable AoE nukes can also destroy Naga Siren's illusions very fast.
Puck
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 14%)Timbersaw
* Any Hero with high mobility will be neutralized by dream coil: Queen of Pain,
Storm Spirit,
Ember Spirit,
Lycan,
Bloodseeker,
Anti-Mage,
Timbersaw
Huskar
* Bristleback,
Centaur Warrunner,
Spirit Breaker,
Pudge,
Huskar: These heroes are too tanky for Puck to burst down. Also, all of them have spells which can deal with and shut Puck down reliably.
Lycan
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 57% pickrate: 6%)Huskar
* Heroes with low armor and little mobility, like Huskar,
Io, etc. will also have an unfortunate fate.
Timbersaw
* Reactive Armor makes Timbersaw very effective against heroes that control a lot of units, such as Broodmother,
Lycan and
Undying.
Additional:
* All of Timbersaw's spells deal AoE damage, killing Lycan's summons very quickly.
* Reactive Armor will gain stacks quickly because of Lycan's summons.
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