Dark Seer
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 3%)Bloodseeker
[wiki] rating: 1.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 2%)Treant Protector
* Heroes with invisibility will be detected by Thirst when they have low enough health: Bounty Hunter,
Templar Assassin,
Riki,
Clinkz,
Weaver,
Treant Protector,
Nyx Assassin.
Pangolier
* Thirst provides constant sight and speed to Bloodseeker, allows him to catch up a fleeing Pangolier through all of his mobility.
* Rupture is a great threat to Pangolier, causes him to take heavy damage if he uses Swashbuckle and especially Rolling Thunder, forcing him to stop his ultimate prematurely, or keep rolling to his death.
Additional:
* Rupture works through Rolling Thunder and
Swashbuckle, greatly reducing Pangolier's mobility.
Bane
[wiki] rating: 1.2 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 5%)Treant Protector
* Heroes that wish to disrupt fights with spell combos or big ultimates are vulnerable to the long stun of Fiend's Grip: Disruptor,
Death Prophet,
Enigma,
Faceless Void,
Invoker,
Lich,
Magnus,
Mars,
Medusa,
Outworld Destroyer,
Phoenix,
Puck,
Queen of Pain,
Shadow Fiend,
Treant Protector,
Underlord,
Winter Wyvern,
Witch Doctor,
Zeus.
Pangolier
* Heroes with other kind of disables that pierce spell immunity can hold Pangolier in place during Rolling Thunder: Axe,
Beastmaster,
Enigma,
Magnus,
Pudge,
Batrider,
Bane,
Winter Wyvern
Batrider
[wiki] rating: 1.2 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 5%)Pangolier
* Heroes with other kind of disables that pierce spell immunity can hold Pangolier in place during Rolling Thunder: Axe,
Beastmaster,
Enigma,
Magnus,
Pudge,
Batrider,
Bane,
Winter Wyvern
Treant Protector
* Heroes with the capability of removing or destroying trees greatly hinders the effectiveness of Treant Protector's abilities: Batrider,
Nature's Prophet,
Lina,
Enigma,
Mars
Additional:
* Firefly will cut trees with ease, cleaning-up an area that's been enchanted with Eyes In The Forest, and potentially revealing a Treant under the effects of
Nature's Guise.
* Batrider's DoT spells are also good versus Living Armor,
Puck
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 15%)Pangolier
* Dream Coil and Wanning Rift prevent Pangolier from using Swashbuckle and
Rolling Thunder, If Puck has
aghanim's scepter, Dream coil will stop Rolling Thunder from moving entirely.
Additional:
* Illusory Orb and
Waning Rift provides great mobility, allowing Puck to catch up Pangolier when he is attempting to disengage with his own skills.
* Dream Coil's leash act almost as a literal silence to Pangolier, disabling half of his arsenal and also piercing his spell immunity during Rolling Thunder. Also Dream Coil's very long duration will make Pangolier wasting his entire ultimate rolling in place.
Outworld Destroyer
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 6%)Pangolier
* Astral Imprisonment protects an ally for much of Rolling Thunder's duration, especially at the lower levels. As Rolling Thunder has a considerable cast animation, an Outworld Destroyer with
Blink Dagger can initiate on him and destroy his timing.
Jakiro
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 11%)Treant Protector
* With Dual Breath, Liquid Fire and Macropyre Jakiro can quickly remove all Living Armor from a target.
* Ice Path allows Jakiro to prevent Treant Protector from using Overgrowth while staying at a safe distance.
* Macropyre destroy trees, which where Treant protector might be hiding
Tusk
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 7%)Pangolier
* Ice Shards can easily interfere with Rolling Thunder, making him stuck inside the arc and wasting his ultimate. Do not panic and use Shield Crash to get out of that position.
* Snowball help Tusk and his allies follow a fleeing Pangolier, keep in mind that the Pangolier can always counter-initiate with his Rolling Thunder.
* Walrus PUNCH! deals heavy damage even during his Rolling Thunder.
Centaur Warrunner
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 4%)Pangolier
* When Swashbuckle hits Centaur Warrunner, Return will deal significant damage, as it procs off every strike made.
* Stampede helps allies avoid or disengage from Pangolier during Rolling Thunder, as well as neutralizing the slow debuff from Lucky Shot.
Slardar
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 8%)Treant Protector
* Corrosive Haze will reveal Treant Protector even when he is under the effects of Nature's Guise.
Slark
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 13%)Pangolier
* Dark Pact easily purges away both slow and disarm effect from Lucky Shot.
* With Pounce now apply leash to the target, Pangolier is helpless against Slark since both his Swashbuckle and Rolling Thunder will be disabled. Pounce also help Slark to easily escape from Rolling Thunder.
Grimstroke
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 10%)Pangolier
* Soulbind ignores spell immunity, forcing Pangolier to roll in place during his ultimate as well as anchoring the other victim to his vicinity.
Lina
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 13%)Treant Protector
* Light Strike Array and Dragon Slave allows Lina to destroy trees, countering Nature's Guise and
Eyes in the Forest.
* Lina has many tools to remove Living Armor's protection.
Rubick
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 17%)Treant Protector
* All of Treant Protector's abilities are worth stealing, and Rubick is able to cast them with no animation time.
Medusa
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 2%)Pangolier
* Split Shot will keep attacking Pangolier even when he is rolling around.
* Stone Gaze stuns Pangolier during Rolling Thunder, or forces him to roll away.
Faceless Void
[wiki] rating: 1.0 (winrate: 43% pickrate: 7%)Pangolier
* Chronosphere's large obstacle denies Pangolier the room to roll around during teamfights, as well as wasting his ultimate's duration.
Enigma
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 4%)Treant Protector
* Heroes with the capability of removing or destroying trees greatly hinders the effectiveness of Treant Protector's abilities: Batrider,
Nature's Prophet,
Lina,
Enigma,
Mars
Pangolier
* Heroes with other kind of disables that pierce spell immunity can hold Pangolier in place during Rolling Thunder: Axe,
Beastmaster,
Enigma,
Magnus,
Pudge,
Batrider,
Bane,
Winter Wyvern
Pangolier
* Heroes who have summons, which can be quickly cleared by his powerful area of effect skill: Nature's Prophet,
Enigma,
Lycan
Bounty Hunter
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 9%)Treant Protector
* Invisibility reliant heroes: Heroes with invisibility abilities or those that have invested into invisibility items are hindered by Bounty Hunter's Track. Few examples of such heroes are:Clinkz,
Riki,
Treant Protector, etc.
Dark Willow
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 6%)Pangolier
* Heroes with powerful rooting abilities will disable most of Pangolier's skill, a bonus point if it pierce spell immunity since it will also be able to stop Pangolier during his Rolling Thunder: Treant Protector,
Meepo,
Crystal Maiden,
Dark Willow,
Underlord,
Naga Siren
Winter Wyvern
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 5%)Pangolier
* Heroes with other kind of disables that pierce spell immunity can hold Pangolier in place during Rolling Thunder: Axe,
Beastmaster,
Enigma,
Magnus,
Pudge,
Batrider,
Bane,
Winter Wyvern
Void Spirit
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 10%)Pangolier
* Heroes with considerable mobility can easily escape from a rolling Pangolier: Anti-Mage,
Queen of Pain,
Void Spirit,
Storm Spirit,
Ember Spirit,
Earth Spirit, moreover, if a player is familiar with how Rolling Thunder work, they can adjust their movement to avoid it entirely and of course outplay the Pangolier player.
Earth Spirit
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 9%)Pangolier
* Heroes with considerable mobility can easily escape from a rolling Pangolier: Anti-Mage,
Queen of Pain,
Void Spirit,
Storm Spirit,
Ember Spirit,
Earth Spirit, moreover, if a player is familiar with how Rolling Thunder work, they can adjust their movement to avoid it entirely and of course outplay the Pangolier player.
Huskar
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 2%)Pangolier
* Certain heroes can mess up with Pangolier's positioning and timing (especially if he intends to use Rolling Thunder during combat): Vengeful Spirit,
Keeper of the Light,
Huskar,
Dark Seer
Axe
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 10%)Pangolier
* Heroes with other kind of disables that pierce spell immunity can hold Pangolier in place during Rolling Thunder: Axe,
Beastmaster,
Enigma,
Magnus,
Pudge,
Batrider,
Bane,
Winter Wyvern
Queen of Pain
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 9%)Pangolier
* Heroes with considerable mobility can easily escape from a rolling Pangolier: Anti-Mage,
Queen of Pain,
Void Spirit,
Storm Spirit,
Ember Spirit,
Earth Spirit, moreover, if a player is familiar with how Rolling Thunder work, they can adjust their movement to avoid it entirely and of course outplay the Pangolier player.
Viper
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 6%)Treant Protector
* Melee heroes with low mobility can be kited and killed by Viper: Treant Protector,
Kunkka,
Alchemist,
Troll Warlord,
Wraith King,
Tiny,
Sven.
Vengeful Spirit
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 7%)Pangolier
* Certain heroes can mess up with Pangolier's positioning and timing (especially if he intends to use Rolling Thunder during combat): Vengeful Spirit,
Keeper of the Light,
Huskar,
Dark Seer
Pudge
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 21%)Pangolier
* Heroes with other kind of disables that pierce spell immunity can hold Pangolier in place during Rolling Thunder: Axe,
Beastmaster,
Enigma,
Magnus,
Pudge,
Batrider,
Bane,
Winter Wyvern
Mars
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 16%)Treant Protector
* Heroes with the capability of removing or destroying trees greatly hinders the effectiveness of Treant Protector's abilities: Batrider,
Nature's Prophet,
Lina,
Enigma,
Mars
Ember Spirit
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 9%)Pangolier
* Heroes with considerable mobility can easily escape from a rolling Pangolier: Anti-Mage,
Queen of Pain,
Void Spirit,
Storm Spirit,
Ember Spirit,
Earth Spirit, moreover, if a player is familiar with how Rolling Thunder work, they can adjust their movement to avoid it entirely and of course outplay the Pangolier player.
Keeper of the Light
[wiki] rating: 0.6 (winrate: 44% pickrate: 5%)Pangolier
* Certain heroes can mess up with Pangolier's positioning and timing (especially if he intends to use Rolling Thunder during combat): Vengeful Spirit,
Keeper of the Light,
Huskar,
Dark Seer
Sven
[wiki] rating: 0.4 (winrate: 42% pickrate: 1%)Pangolier
* Warcry's shields protects Sven and his teammates from Swashbuckle.
* Sven's Black King Bar blocks most of Pangolier's skills.
Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on skills to become a heavy hitter in a certain amount of time can waste their timing because of a lucky Lucky Shot's disarm: Terrorblade,
Sven,
Clinkz,
Windranger,
Alchemist,
Dragon Knight,
Legion Commander
Legion Commander
[wiki] rating: -1.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 13%)Pangolier
* Lucky Shot can disarm Legion Commander and reduce her armor, which can reduce her chances of winning a duel. If an ally is targeted, Pangolier can simply use
Swashbuckle to inflict it on her.
* If an enemy Pangolier casts a well-timed Rolling Thunder before Legion Commander can cast Duel, it might result in her chasing down Pangolier until his or her ultimate ends, whichever duration ends first, resulting in an open window for enemy allies to target Legion Commander, making her vulnerable and susceptible to any source of attacks. If Legion Commander has an
Aghanim's Scepter in her inventory, the risk of wasting a solid 8 seconds would result in a futile duel.
Treant Protector
* Clinkz,
Sniper,
Lone Druid,
Troll Warlord,
Legion Commander,
Wraith King and others are some of the Heroes that bases themselves on attacks with little or no spell power, suffering in the grassy hands of Overgrowth.
Additional:
* Living Armor's global range makes it nearly impossible for Legion Commander to win Duels in the early to mid-game.
Lycan
[wiki] rating: -1.6 (winrate: 57% pickrate: 6%)Pangolier
* Heroes who have summons, which can be quickly cleared by his powerful area of effect skill: Nature's Prophet,
Enigma,
Lycan
Treant Protector
* Lycan has no kind of teleport, being only able to walk, and heavily relies on his attacks. As Overgrowth roots and disarms the targets, Lycan can't do much in an overgrowth field.
Clinkz
[wiki] rating: -1.2 (winrate: 52% pickrate: 5%)Treant Protector
* Clinkz,
Sniper,
Lone Druid,
Troll Warlord,
Legion Commander,
Wraith King and others are some of the Heroes that bases themselves on attacks with little or no spell power, suffering in the grassy hands of Overgrowth.
Additional:
* Clinkz will often roam the map alone, and Treant Protector's Nature's Guise allows him to set up kills with his allies on Clinkz from invisibility.
* Treant Protector's very high damage allowing him to trade hits or contest last hits with Clinkz, while Living Armor can be used to sustain the harass.
* Living Armor protects any of Treant's allies ganked by Clinkz.
* In teamfights, Treant Protector's Overgrowth can disarm Clinkz, preventing him from turning invisible and holding him in place even if he has a
Black King Bar.
* Leech Seed slows Clinkz, preventing him from repositioning or fleeing away from danger.
Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on skills to become a heavy hitter in a certain amount of time can waste their timing because of a lucky Lucky Shot's disarm: Terrorblade,
Sven,
Clinkz,
Windranger,
Alchemist,
Dragon Knight,
Legion Commander
Phantom Assassin
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 16%)Treant Protector
* Overgrowth prevents Phantom Assassin from using Blink Strike even through her spell immunity.
* Living Armor reduces Phantom Assassin's physical damage whenever she attempts to gank an allied hero.
Io
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 4%)Treant Protector
* Living Armor can be used to save a hero from a Relocate gank.
Hoodwink
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 19%)Treant Protector
* Treant can give chase should Hoodwink attempt to Scurry away, and Nature's Grasp can slow her down so Treant Protector's teammates can pin Hoodwink down.
Visage
[wiki] rating: -1.0 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 2%)Pangolier
* Pangolier's high mobility allows Pangolier to escape from Visage's ganking attempt. Keep in mind that his familiars can easily interfere with your ultimate during casting time if they are able to scout your position.
* Swashbuckle quickly burn away Gravekeeper's Cloak charges.
Kunkka
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 4%)Treant Protector
* Treant Protector's
Living Armor will also negate Tidebringer's damage.
Terrorblade
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 5%)Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on skills to become a heavy hitter in a certain amount of time can waste their timing because of a lucky Lucky Shot's disarm: Terrorblade,
Sven,
Clinkz,
Windranger,
Alchemist,
Dragon Knight,
Legion Commander
Witch Doctor
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 13%)Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on channeling abilities can be interrupted in teamfights by Rolling Thunder: Crystal Maiden,
Pugna,
Witch Doctor
Sniper
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 5%)Pangolier
* Powerful physical hitters that can destroy Pangolier during his rolling from afar: Drow Ranger,
Sniper,
Templar Assassin,
Arc Warden
Pangolier
* Heroes with high mobility can approach Sniper: Anti-Mage,
Earth Spirit,
Io,
Nature's Prophet,
Pangolier,
Puck,
Queen of Pain and most notably
Riki.
Treant Protector
* Clinkz,
Sniper,
Lone Druid,
Troll Warlord,
Legion Commander,
Wraith King and others are some of the Heroes that bases themselves on attacks with little or no spell power, suffering in the grassy hands of Overgrowth.
Invoker
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 17%)Pangolier
* Heroes with abilities which have a built-in spell immunity: Lifestealer,
Juggernaut,
Pangolier.
Windranger
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 16%)Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on skills to become a heavy hitter in a certain amount of time can waste their timing because of a lucky Lucky Shot's disarm: Terrorblade,
Sven,
Clinkz,
Windranger,
Alchemist,
Dragon Knight,
Legion Commander
Leshrac
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 4%)Pangolier
* Heroes with spell immunity: Juggernaut,
Pangolier,
Huskar.
Troll Warlord
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 10%)Treant Protector
* Clinkz,
Sniper,
Lone Druid,
Troll Warlord,
Legion Commander,
Wraith King and others are some of the Heroes that bases themselves on attacks with little or no spell power, suffering in the grassy hands of Overgrowth.
Mirana
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 16%)Treant Protector
* Overgrowth has a great duration, which it prevents the units caught from attacking, moving and any short of blinking. Heroes like Storm Spirit,
Mirana,
Anti-Mage and others won't be able to do much if they're caught.
Lone Druid
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 2%)Treant Protector
* Clinkz,
Sniper,
Lone Druid,
Troll Warlord,
Legion Commander,
Wraith King and others are some of the Heroes that bases themselves on attacks with little or no spell power, suffering in the grassy hands of Overgrowth.
Pugna
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 4%)Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on channeling abilities can be interrupted in teamfights by Rolling Thunder: Crystal Maiden,
Pugna,
Witch Doctor
Dragon Knight
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 2%)Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on skills to become a heavy hitter in a certain amount of time can waste their timing because of a lucky Lucky Shot's disarm: Terrorblade,
Sven,
Clinkz,
Windranger,
Alchemist,
Dragon Knight,
Legion Commander
Chaos Knight
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 4%)Pangolier
* Heroes who are illusion based, or even heroes who frequently build Manta Style can be cleared quickly by Pangolier's high damage, or lose their damage ouput because of Lucky Shot: Chaos Knight,
Naga Siren
Wraith King
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 20%)Treant Protector
* Clinkz,
Sniper,
Lone Druid,
Troll Warlord,
Legion Commander,
Wraith King and others are some of the Heroes that bases themselves on attacks with little or no spell power, suffering in the grassy hands of Overgrowth.
Juggernaut
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 19%)Treant Protector
* Heroes with abilities that can save are also effective such as Shadow Demon,
Dazzle,
Oracle,
Bane,
Pugna,
Tusk,
Winter Wyvern,
Io,
Underlord,
Treant Protector and
Keeper of the Light.
Alchemist
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 4%)Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on skills to become a heavy hitter in a certain amount of time can waste their timing because of a lucky Lucky Shot's disarm: Terrorblade,
Sven,
Clinkz,
Windranger,
Alchemist,
Dragon Knight,
Legion Commander
Monkey King
[wiki] rating: -0.6 (winrate: 53% pickrate: 18%)Treant Protector
* Monkey King is one of the few other heroes who can easily traverse through trees, counteracting Treant Protector's ability to hide in trees.
Pangolier
* Rolling Thunder allows Pangolier to quickly clear trees.
Treant Protector
* Heroes that can maintain vision on Monkey King can see when he uses Tree Dance: Bloodseeker,
Treant Protector with Eyes In The Forest,
Sniper,
Weaver
Magnus
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 45% pickrate: 6%)Pangolier
* Heroes with other kind of disables that pierce spell immunity can hold Pangolier in place during Rolling Thunder: Axe,
Beastmaster,
Enigma,
Magnus,
Pudge,
Batrider,
Bane,
Winter Wyvern
Treant Protector
* Treant Protector can usually scout out Magnus in the trees with Eyes in the Forest and disrupt his initiation attempts. He can also counter Magnus' initiation with
Overgrowth.
Meepo
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 47% pickrate: 1%)Pangolier
* Heroes with powerful rooting abilities will disable most of Pangolier's skill, a bonus point if it pierce spell immunity since it will also be able to stop Pangolier during his Rolling Thunder: Treant Protector,
Meepo,
Crystal Maiden,
Dark Willow,
Underlord,
Naga Siren
Pangolier
* Shield Crash gains its damage reduction bonus from all Meepo clones, and can be used even when rooted, allowing Pangolier to gain a massive amount of damage reduction (even more than 100%).
* With too many clone running around during combat, it is almost impossible for Meepo to avoid Rolling Thunder or Swashbuckle.
* Still, remember that a lone Pangolier can never escape from a ganking Meepo.
Additional:
* Pangolier's arsenal deals heavy damage in a wide area, make him deadly even for a Meepo with a high magic resistance.
* Shield Crash can easily give him a ridiculous 90% damage resistance, resulting in a near unkillable Pangolier in a short amount of time.
* Rolling Thunder disrupts Meepo's initiation or escaping.
* Swashbuckle can hit all of Meepo clones.
* Lucky Shot can disarm Meepo's clones.
Anti-Mage
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 48% pickrate: 14%)Pangolier
* Heroes with considerable mobility can easily escape from a rolling Pangolier: Anti-Mage,
Queen of Pain,
Void Spirit,
Storm Spirit,
Ember Spirit,
Earth Spirit, moreover, if a player is familiar with how Rolling Thunder work, they can adjust their movement to avoid it entirely and of course outplay the Pangolier player.
Treant Protector
* Anti-Mage relies on blinking and attacking. Overgrowth prevents both.
* Be wary that he will eventually farm up a Manta Style that fully dispels Overgrowth. Good players will wait for your ultimate to use their manta. Perhaps an ally has a silence or similar that would force him to use his manta before your ultimate.
Drow Ranger
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 8%)Pangolier
* Powerful physical hitters that can destroy Pangolier during his rolling from afar: Drow Ranger,
Sniper,
Templar Assassin,
Arc Warden
Treant Protector
* Another hero heavily based on attacks and no mobility, being an easy prey for Treant strong disarms and motion reduction skills.
Templar Assassin
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 5%)Pangolier
* Powerful physical hitters that can destroy Pangolier during his rolling from afar: Drow Ranger,
Sniper,
Templar Assassin,
Arc Warden
Pangolier
* Swashbuckle quickly burn away Refraction charges.
* Lucky Shot can possibly disrupt Templar Assassin when she is boosted with Refraction.
* Pangolier's abilities which does not need to target and has big area of effect allows him to damage her even during Meld.
* Pangolier's high mobility easily shrug off the slow from Psionic Trap.
Storm Spirit
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 10%)Pangolier
* Heroes with considerable mobility can easily escape from a rolling Pangolier: Anti-Mage,
Queen of Pain,
Void Spirit,
Storm Spirit,
Ember Spirit,
Earth Spirit, moreover, if a player is familiar with how Rolling Thunder work, they can adjust their movement to avoid it entirely and of course outplay the Pangolier player.
Treant Protector
* If Storm Spirit is caught in an Overgrowth, he is shut down.
* With the exception of Electric Vortex, he won't be able to cast any relevant skill.
Arc Warden
[wiki] rating: -0.4 (winrate: 51% pickrate: 5%)Pangolier
* Powerful physical hitters that can destroy Pangolier during his rolling from afar: Drow Ranger,
Sniper,
Templar Assassin,
Arc Warden
Pangolier
* Rolling Thunder hits Arc Warden, his Tempest Double and any allies through
Magnetic Field.
* Rolling Thunder also causes Pangolier to take no damage from existing stacks of Flux as well as clear all
Spark Wraiths on the way.
Nature's Prophet
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 46% pickrate: 5%)Treant Protector
* Heroes with the capability of removing or destroying trees greatly hinders the effectiveness of Treant Protector's abilities: Batrider,
Nature's Prophet,
Lina,
Enigma,
Mars
Additional:
* Nature's Prophet's treants can destroy trees to reveal Treant Protector is hiding on.
Pangolier
* Heroes who have summons, which can be quickly cleared by his powerful area of effect skill: Nature's Prophet,
Enigma,
Lycan
Phantom Lancer
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 49% pickrate: 7%)Treant Protector
* Doppelganger can dispel Leech Seed. It can also destroy large amounts of trees, counteracting Nature's Guise and Eyes in the Forest.
Pangolier
* Pangolier's AoE abilities especially Shield Crash, is very effective against Phantom Lancer's illusions.
Additional:
* Pangolier's skill has considerable damage and area of effect, allows him to quickly destroy Phantom Lancer's illusions.
* Pangolier's high mobility allows him to easily escape from Phantom Lancer, through both Phantom Rush and Diffusal Blade.
* Phantom Rush will cause Phantom Lancer to be stunned by Rolling Thunder, or set himself up for a Shield Crash.
Timbersaw
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 7%)Treant Protector
* Not only are all of Timbersaw's active abilities capable of cutting down trees, but Whirling Death and
Timber Chain also require it to be effective, counteracting both Treant Protector's Nature's Guise and Eyes in the Forest abilities.
Additional:
* Timbersaw can use his plethora of tree cutting abilities to level entire sections of the forest, making hiding in the trees more difficult for Treant Protector and his team.
* Timbersaw can easily cut down Treant Protector's Eyes In The Forest once his team has detection. He may even do it unknowingly due to the sheer destructive and chaotic nature of his abilities.
Pangolier
* Rolling Thunder's stuns make it harder for Timbersaw to escape with Timber Chain.
Crystal Maiden
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 14%)Pangolier
* Heroes with powerful rooting abilities will disable most of Pangolier's skill, a bonus point if it pierce spell immunity since it will also be able to stop Pangolier during his Rolling Thunder: Treant Protector,
Meepo,
Crystal Maiden,
Dark Willow,
Underlord,
Naga Siren
Pangolier
* Heroes who rely on channeling abilities can be interrupted in teamfights by Rolling Thunder: Crystal Maiden,
Pugna,
Witch Doctor
Spirit Breaker
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 8%)Pangolier
* Charge of Darkness can be used to chase down Pangolier if he escapes with Swashbuckle or Rolling Thunder.
* Nether Strike ignores Rolling Thunder's spell immunity, and will still hit Pangolier if he rolls or dashes away.
Treant Protector
* Spirit Breaker's slow attacks cannot harm a hero shielded by Living Armor.
Additional:
* Living Armor can mitigate a large portion of Spirit Breaker's damage since his attacks are slow.
* Treant Protector can also counter initiate Spirit Breaker with Leech Seed and his bash from
Nature's Guise before he manages to escape.
Naga Siren
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 50% pickrate: 2%)Pangolier
* Heroes with powerful rooting abilities will disable most of Pangolier's skill, a bonus point if it pierce spell immunity since it will also be able to stop Pangolier during his Rolling Thunder: Treant Protector,
Meepo,
Crystal Maiden,
Dark Willow,
Underlord,
Naga Siren
Pangolier
* Heroes who are illusion based, or even heroes who frequently build Manta Style can be cleared quickly by Pangolier's high damage, or lose their damage ouput because of Lucky Shot: Chaos Knight,
Naga Siren
Underlord
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 54% pickrate: 8%)Pangolier
* Heroes with powerful rooting abilities will disable most of Pangolier's skill, a bonus point if it pierce spell immunity since it will also be able to stop Pangolier during his Rolling Thunder: Treant Protector,
Meepo,
Crystal Maiden,
Dark Willow,
Underlord,
Naga Siren
Treant Protector
* In general, heroes that provide vision will see Dark Rift coming: Techies,
Templar Assassin,
Treant Protector
Beastmaster
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 55% pickrate: 4%)Pangolier
* Heroes with other kind of disables that pierce spell immunity can hold Pangolier in place during Rolling Thunder: Axe,
Beastmaster,
Enigma,
Magnus,
Pudge,
Batrider,
Bane,
Winter Wyvern
Pangolier
* Heroes with AoE abilities are a bane to Beastmaster's summons: Storm Spirit,
Magnus,
Pangolier.
Broodmother
[wiki] rating: 0.0 (winrate: 55% pickrate: 2%)Treant Protector
* Spiderlings melt away Living Armor almost instantly.
* The vision from Eyes In The Forest may prove dangerous for Broodmother, however.
Pangolier
* Swashbuckle and Shield Crash quickly destroys Broodmother's spiderlings and spiderites.
* Lucky Shot's disarm is very valuable when dealing with a Broodmother during her Insatiable Hunger.
Additional:
* Swashbuckle can be used for Pangolier to escape or kill Broodmother's spiders. Combined with
Lucky Shot Pangolier can potentially disarm Broodmother preventing her from lifestealing off enemies.
* Shield Crash can be used for wave clear to deal with Broodmother's spiders.
* Rolling Thunder can be used as an escape or a means of initiating on Broodmother.
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Pangolier
* Certain heroes can mess up with Pangolier's positioning and timing (especially if he intends to use Rolling Thunder during combat):
Vengeful Spirit,
Keeper of the Light,
Huskar,
Dark Seer
Treant Protector
*
Living Armor can be destroyed quickly with Ion Shell.